In 2018 at the Gallerie Exterior at Cité des Arts. Sam Tshabalala and I were in conversation for a week developing a portrait of him as an artist who was in exile from South Africa. We danced and sang together and spoke though our collective histories as South African Artists and the children of policemen. We opened our work space to the public to show what we have developed and our questions around how to shift the paradigm of portraiture and developing a more reciprocal relationship.
